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Fire Emblem Anon Mod ([personal profile] feanonmod) wrote in [community profile] feanons2014-04-14 12:34 pm
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part 3 kris, try not to fall in love with me!

Aaand now we're now onto part 3!

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http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-thanks-t

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"I began to love certain ships less thanks to other fans from an anon comm because they’d do things such as mock fans for their more popular ships (or opinions), such as Chrom/f!Robin or Henry/Olivia, and then go praise less popular ships (e.g. Henry/Sumia, one of the ships I used to love) as ‘better’. I know the fandom has its own problems, but the anons (Myself included, which I won’t hide) mocking those fans for their ship-based opinions and headcanons are no better."
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Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I know the fandom has its own problems, but the anons (Myself included, which I won’t hide) mocking those fans for their ship-based opinions and headcanons are no better."

... And yet the OP went to a completely different media platform to spread the drama even more.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to see the receipts for this mocking tbh. I can't remember ever seeing Henry/Olivia fans being mocked besides referencing their fans being notorious one time. I remember details on fans doing PA behavior but never mocking like "Henry/Olivia fans are all whiny assholes!". The most I've seen is passive aggressive and whiny, which is pushing it when it comes to "mocking" because that fanbase has built that rep up. Unless it's saying something about their supports, which, you know, isn't mocking the fans personally. Maybe something like "It's so (X) I can't believe people like it!" But I can't recall seeing that. I've seen people mention liking English more than the Japanese and vice versa.

I haven't seen personal attacks against people who ship either, but I have seen critique (some phrased not as nicely), but never personal attack unless it's someone obviously self-inserting or showing some form misogyny. I've seen some generalization, maybe at the worst "Chrom/FemU fans are awful when it comes to (reason)" or something about their rep, but I've never seen actual personal insults. The amount of creepy stuff that comes out of the Chrom and Lucina secrets are staggering, and there's a fine line between what's a little over the top and being over zealous over pixels. The only thing I can say is that the anon meme can be hypocrites because we comment on secrets saying "Ugh this person can only marry Chrom! Creepy!" but then confessions like "I can only marry (not Chrom)!" are brushed off and not treated as the same category. While slightly different, there's a level of hypocrisy.

I've never even seen Henry/Sumia mentioned as better and it's barely been brought up.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think the anon meme 100% goodness but there are some people who take not like a ship or critiquing it as mocking/bashing. I want to be proven wrong.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
No one's ever mocked Henry/Olivia shippers here, only griped about bad shipper behavior and opined that Inigo looks like crap with white hair. The worst we ever did was linkdrop that one fic and that was more about the portrayal of the pairing, not the pairing itself.

This meme has been admittedly hard on the Chrom/FeM shippers, we did spend a disproportionate amount of time mocking fanworks we didn't care for. And I've noticed we come down harder on the "I can only marry Chrom" people than players who can only marry, say Cordelia or Gangrel. But no one's ever outright bullied Chrom/FeMU shippers for shipping it, just groaned over the creepy overinvested Die For My Ship crap that happens with this pair.

And no one has EVER claimed Henry/Sumia was superior. We have fans who love it and squee over it and proclaim it their favorite, but it's never been used to bash another ship. Ever.

This meme isn't 100% pure sunshine and we've done some dickish things in the past, but we're not as bad as this confession is making us out to be.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you talking about feanons over at Dreamwidth, OP? Because that’s literally the only not-dead FE anon meme I know that does this.

Aaand looks like the meme got namedropped now.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
notice that it's a tumblr without any other entries, and apparently made just to reblog and namedrop the meme in its reply

hmmmmmmmmm

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
meh, I wouldn't think too much of it

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Both of the extreme sides to this "anti vs pro" feanons argument need to lay the fuck off, because you aren't getting anywhere, just seeing who makes the loudest racket.

All you're doing is preventing this place from getting better and shortening this place's lifespan because people won't want to post here.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you but...

Considering there was that one anon from here who sameanoned all over wankgate accusing the people of being some fan on Tumblr without any evidence at all? I think feanons is screwed either way.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
If you're talking about the initial accusation of some tumblr person using feanons, there's pretty decent evidence in the anon's favor. Said person uses a lot of the phrasing seen here like skrung womyn, tsunloli robin, lots of tilded phrases, etc. Those are pretty distinctive.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, no, I was talking about the part where a feanons!person sameanoned all over wankgate and accused anyone who disliked feanons or some DWRPers/Tumblr people of being a Tumblrite from the fandom who apparently doesn't even browse DW, let alone wankgate of all places.

It eventually got to the point that the owner of the comm started outright deleting the threads that mention feanons/Tumblr DWRPers/the fandom Tumblrite because the sameanoning annoyed nearly everyone in WG, especially the flatviewers.

sa

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
Also to note: just in case, I'm not going to name this particular Tumblr!fan that the feanons!grudgeanon was namedropping.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that one. Thanks for clarification.

Damn, how bad is it that the whole thread confused the shit out of me? I can't say I'm purely neutral on this argument, but either way we're burning this from both ends.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Naw, it's okay to be confused. I could barely follow what I caught from it without going cross-eyed... I think even the "hi rebutle" anons were involved in one of these.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

If you're talking about the initial accusation of some tumblr person using feanons, there's pretty decent evidence in the anon's favor.

There is/was also pretty decent evidence against that specific person (whom we shouldn't name for obvious reasons), if my memory serves me right. We have passive-aggressive wording, sudden wank centered on the FE thread that is usually so peaceful it barely shows up in the "canon hate" thread anymore, EXTREMELY defensive behavior whenever someone speculated "it must be [insert name here]" immediately coupled with "no one cares about [insert name]", bringing up the same themes all over several times until the deletion started and then captcha was active, etc.

And to the anon below:

a Tumblrite from the fandom who apparently doesn't even browse DW, let alone wankgate of all places

If this IS the person we're talking about, I'm pretty sure s/he IS a member of DW but just isn't into DW roleplay. If it's true, then it'd give them a good "cover" of the "I don't RP, it can't be me, I can deflect any accusations via just saying 'I DON'T RP'..." type.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay anon, you're being really speculative. Which is worth less than shit, because I could very much accuse YOU on the same grounds when this speculative whodunit comment keeps popping up. At this point, I could speculate only you really give a fuck about the who anymore.

Yes, you believe this is all one big conspiracy to destroy feanons, we heard you the first time. Now don't let me get the mod on your ass because you're pointing fingers when the above anon was pointing out the validity of a comment on wankgate.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
EXTREMELY defensive behavior whenever someone speculated "it must be [insert name here]"

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
[FUN SPECULATION BY HOPEFULLY ONE ANON OF "APPROPRIATE TARGET X" UNTIL THE MOD BANS THIS LIKE NAMEDROPS AND SAMEANONS]

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
SA, since I'm not running away

For someone who goes all "I speculate only you give a fuck", you immediately and very aggressively jumped to attack me when I gave my own opinion without dropping names. It tells me that you care a lot about this issue despite how much you claim the contrary.

Looking back, my comment wasn't exactly the most appropriate and I won't deny it. But you are surely not helping your own case via pointing fingers and making threats.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
[saying "I'll get the mod on your ass" is now a threat]

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Well, could it be that some anon namedropped on the Fire Emblem thread because they recognized the presence of someone they knew had a history, but couldn't bring it up on feanons because of some reason or another and used Wankgate? Conveniently there was a crowd of people who either remembered Tumblrite A from Livejournal days or people were dissatisfied with feanons. Extremist counters on on both sides resulted then in a big wankgate-fueled mess. Bringing this to feanons did no better, because there are people who will vehemently justify this comm, and those who think this comm is corrupted by certain people who dictate what kind of opinions this place should have.

Is that just as fair of assumptions?

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yes, that works for me pretty well. There are many possibilities and also more than one different POV, but at the rate we all running in circles. Myself included, to be fair.

Re: http://feshippingconfessions.tumblr.com/post/85335215485/i-began-to-love-certain-ships-less-than

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
If this IS the person we're talking about, I'm pretty sure s/he IS a member of DW but just isn't into DW roleplay. If it's true, then it'd give them a good "cover" of the "I don't RP, it can't be me, I can deflect any accusations via just saying 'I DON'T RP'..." type.

last I heard, they're barely even active on DW and have more or less moved their activity to Tumblr. even then, why go to wankgate of all places?