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Fire Emblem Anon Mod ([personal profile] feanonmod) wrote in [community profile] feanons2013-08-31 09:06 am
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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
How the heck does Lucina choosing to dress in something that isn't considered traditionally feminine make her gender non-binary? That's not how gender works.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
oh god no

not a "too rad to be cis" movement in this fandom

noooooooooooooo

also, isn't lucina fond of girly stuff in canon? iirc there's official art of her wearing a white dress, and in her supports with her mom she seems to be all goo gaa over a gown and wanted her mother to try it on.

+1

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, wasn't it said that the reason she dresses the way she does was because she was trying to hide her identity as "Marth"?

Even if she wasn't trying to hide her identity, I'd imagine she'd still dress this way because, y'know, for practicality's sake since she's kind of been busy fighting a war for about all her life. Do they expect her to fight in a gown to prove she's a girl?

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
oh god fuck no

lucina is a girl. with a vagina. who likes girly things as well as being badass

she just dressed as a boy because it suited her purpose at the time

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
i always side-eye reasoning like this, because deep down the reasons tend to reek of outdated gender roles and gross misogyny. "that strong "woman"? no, she's strong because she feels like a guy!" "women that don't fit in super stereotyped views of what women are? they must be transdudes!" "that boy isn't perfectly manly? MUST BE A GIRL"

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering that they're one of those people who claim that (Dangan Ronpa spoilers; highlight to see) Chihiro identifies as a girl despite the game making it clear that he's a cisboy, I'm not too shocked that they're reaching a similar conclusion with Lucina.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I fucking hate people like those so much.

Good job on missing the very obvious commentaries on gender roles and how they're handled by society (and specially in Japan) so they can "box" that poor character in super narrow and based-on-looks gender/sexuality/etc. corners, while completely ignoring what THEY say in canon *and* throwing tantrums when called out on it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate those headcanons, personally. It plays into the stereotype that a girl can't do boyish things or wear mens' clothes and still be female, or that a dude can't like girly things and still be a dude. Transsexuality and genderqueer-ness are more complex than "she wears pants" or "he likes flowers and cooking".

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-04 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. Instead of defying gender roles and making for more fluid understandings of gender identity it's just reinforces the same old tired stereotypes of how boys can't wear dresses, only girls can, therefore if a boy wears a dress it's only because he's actually a girl. At the core of it I've actually got no problems with the idea, but the way I've seen it typically applied in fandom just rubs me the wrong way.

I mean, why isn't there non-binary...I don't know, Gerome headcanon floating around? Or Cynthia? Oh, right, because one doesn't wear a dress and the other one does according to their presented gender, therefore they're clearly cis-gendered, whereas despite the fact that Lucina enjoys dresses and traditionally feminine things she clearly masqueraded as Marth only because she's non-binary. Girls wear skirts. Guys wear pants.